tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post179961975311715413..comments2021-12-14T21:17:04.871-07:00Comments on Colorado Reflections: Researching Criminal Court RecordsGayle Greshamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13225415106454396883noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-76543575983875785662011-08-20T11:31:50.667-06:002011-08-20T11:31:50.667-06:00Hi Gayle,
I stumbled across your blog while surfi...Hi Gayle,<br /><br />I stumbled across your blog while surfing the net and find it quite interesting. Also, nice to see that we are neighbors kind of by both being in the Elbert County area. I just wanted to mention that my cousin is a Denver County Judge and huge history buff. I don't know if he could be resourceful for you or not, but I can get you in contact if you think he could help in anyway!Colorado Health Insurancehttp://www.coloradohealthinsurancebroker.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-65770240596169158902011-03-17T14:58:01.658-06:002011-03-17T14:58:01.658-06:00Thanks, Beth! And seriously, I hope I can make it ...Thanks, Beth! And seriously, I hope I can make it to Salida on April 21 for your booksigning. If not, I'll watch for when you have a signing on the east side of the mountains.Gayle Greshamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13225415106454396883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-75986868530223152182011-03-15T16:25:09.944-06:002011-03-15T16:25:09.944-06:00Very informative article on researching historical...Very informative article on researching historical court cases! I learned a lot. Love your photos, too.<br />- BethBeth Groundwaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13999372882748655834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-64311123084780317112011-02-10T09:09:48.724-07:002011-02-10T09:09:48.724-07:00Thanks for the info, Biff. Yes, Ron Arons books ar...Thanks for the info, Biff. Yes, Ron Arons books are a great resource. I met him last year at the Colorado Family History Expo.Gayle Greshamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13225415106454396883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-32697817693513957962011-02-09T15:43:59.900-07:002011-02-09T15:43:59.900-07:00Ron Arons of Criminal Research Press is a great re...Ron Arons of Criminal Research Press is a great resource in this area. He has a new book out, Wanted! U.S. Criminal Records, with tips about about researching court records. His website is http://www.ronarons.com/Biff Barneshttp://www.StoriesTotellBooks.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-31182687116096426182011-01-25T13:55:58.403-07:002011-01-25T13:55:58.403-07:00Terri, I hope you find more on the case you are re...Terri, I hope you find more on the case you are researching. A cross-eyed man - interesting!<br /><br />Cheri, good luck in finding more in the murder case. Glad this post was helpful. See my comment on changes of venue, too,(if that pertains) that Christie mentioned.Gayle Greshamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13225415106454396883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-54452552997683613762011-01-25T13:50:47.886-07:002011-01-25T13:50:47.886-07:00Christie, great suggestion about checking neighbor...Christie, great suggestion about checking neighboring counties. In my research, Ernest had separate cases in both Chaffee and Park counties. The Park County cases were quashed after he was sent to prison in the Chaffee County cases.<br /><br />And you are right about changes of venue, because it then becomes the case of that County and is searched that way.Gayle Greshamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13225415106454396883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-50982512278895007772011-01-24T14:05:23.608-07:002011-01-24T14:05:23.608-07:00Gorgeous pic, thanks for sharing that. The tips fo...Gorgeous pic, thanks for sharing that. The tips for searching criminal records were very timely. I helped to research a murder trial last year and think I could go back and find more now.Cheri Hopkins aka You Go Genealogy Girl #2https://www.blogger.com/profile/17792786622751019882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-20611540826798947282011-01-23T15:54:01.198-07:002011-01-23T15:54:01.198-07:00hi Gayle - so nice to hear about your progress!
...hi Gayle - so nice to hear about your progress! <br /><br />I have a few suggestions to add to the researching if you like - one is to not be put off by agencies/clerks that say "We need a case number." Just offer to look through the folders or boxes yourself, as cases are oftentimes filed by last name. <br /><br />Secondly, I would recommend that researchers check the neighboring county where the crime occurred. As in your research, the cattle rustling occurred near the Park/Chaffee border and there are court papers relating to the case in the Park Co. criminal box at the State Archives. Perhaps the county lines weren't particularly clear back then! Or sometimes there was a change of venue.<br /><br />Third, I would check both County and District Court documents and ask for any "evidence maps" - diagrams of the "scene of the crime" that are too large to be filed with the Court papers. Someone may have filed them separately, rolled up in a map tube somewhere...<br /><br />Your writing sounds fascinating! from ChristieSouth Park Perilshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09982933911394449721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-58138044991359555162011-01-23T08:05:42.481-07:002011-01-23T08:05:42.481-07:00Gayle - Thanks for your suggestions. I don't ...Gayle - Thanks for your suggestions. I don't know if they ever found the man - all the article says is that they were looking for a cross-eyed man.Terrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05810829851962238025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-79347544010560347502011-01-22T21:38:42.142-07:002011-01-22T21:38:42.142-07:00Thanks, Dianne, Susan, and Lori! Lori, I've be...Thanks, Dianne, Susan, and Lori! Lori, I've been lucky not to have any courthouses that burned down. But I've run across many incomplete case files. And some that disappeared...probably for a good reason.Gayle Greshamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13225415106454396883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-23249542363615273002011-01-22T21:36:17.629-07:002011-01-22T21:36:17.629-07:00Terri, that's a good question. I'd start w...Terri, that's a good question. I'd start with actually looking at the court case and seeing what is there. Do you know the name of the man who killed him? Then I'd search the state pen index on the State Archives website. The Denver Library has a card index of the Rocky Mountain News. You could check there for the names of the murdered man and the murderer. (The index may not go as late as 1936, though. You can check that on the Denver Library website.) I hope these ideas will help get you started.Gayle Greshamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13225415106454396883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-29285330045447146012011-01-22T16:59:59.078-07:002011-01-22T16:59:59.078-07:00Greetings from Southern California :-)
I added ...Greetings from Southern California :-) <br /><br />I added myself to follow your blog. You are more than welcome to visit mine and become a follower if you want to.<br /><br />God Bless You, ~RonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-70574837508942660642011-01-22T10:27:43.959-07:002011-01-22T10:27:43.959-07:00This is great information. The court documents I m...This is great information. The court documents I most wanted to find were stored in the old state capitol building (ND), and it burned down in 1930, along all the papers except for one copy of the State Constitution. The county hasn't been very forthcoming, but I plan to visit again next spring. The roads are too bad right now! Thanks for the tips!Lori Orserhttp://www.lorisbooks.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-53131573148341828922011-01-22T09:17:49.564-07:002011-01-22T09:17:49.564-07:00Your tenacity and attention to detail are amazing,...Your tenacity and attention to detail are amazing, Gayle. I can't wait to read the story you're weaving!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-40458335723053154532011-01-21T21:12:52.473-07:002011-01-21T21:12:52.473-07:00Gayle, Great post! What if you are looking for inf...Gayle, Great post! What if you are looking for information on a case but don't know if it was ever solved. Can you cross reference the victim? I'm trying to find out if the man who murdered my cousins grandfather was ever caught. It was happened in Denver in 1936.Terrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05810829851962238025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-91017849165787692752011-01-21T19:25:36.866-07:002011-01-21T19:25:36.866-07:00Interesting stuff, Gayle. And interesting how thic...Interesting stuff, Gayle. And interesting how thick that ice is.Dianne E. Buttshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16428820912425494109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-33619885478360593452011-01-21T15:29:26.019-07:002011-01-21T15:29:26.019-07:00Good! Glad it was helpful. Let me know if I can be...Good! Glad it was helpful. Let me know if I can be of any more help.Gayle Greshamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13225415106454396883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-631136448793618065.post-56778831674943182382011-01-21T14:13:06.585-07:002011-01-21T14:13:06.585-07:00Great information. I had found some great info on...Great information. I had found some great info on a murder trial I am working on in the papers, but have not had as much luck with the court records. You have given me some additional options. (Yes, my person did to to the territorial prison. It was before CO was a state).Renaissance Womenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09045401344374224512noreply@blogger.com